Fox News: What’s Really Happening On The Border

By 1600 Staff

It’s hard to get a clear view of what’s happening on the southern border because there is more commentary than facts at play. For example, many are saying that the Trump Administration is somehow maliciously separating families from their children when they cross. In fact, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirsten Nielsen refuted the idea that the government is separating people as a policy.

Like the old saying goes, “A lie will go round the world while truth is pulling its boots on.” Secretary Nielsen continued to explain that asylum seekers have a process they can go through, and do not need to cross illegally in order to gain entry into the United States. The United States is a reasonable country, that has judges and resources dedicated to care for people who have legitimate reason. Those who are detained at the border are individuals who are breaking the law, and those laws have gotten tougher because so many have abused the generosity of the American people.

The current laws are flawed, as they make it harder for legitimate immigrants and asylum seekers, and still have not addressed the problems with illegal immigration. For this reason, President Trump and his administration are calling on Congress to #ChangeOurLaws, to prevent unfortunate circumstances like the one we find ourselves in now. Currently, because President Trump is considering an executive order to address the family separation issue, which would hopefully clear the air sufficiently to address the larger issue of border security and illegal immigration.

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dprato
dprato
5 years ago

Food for thought. Does it occur to anyone that while Democrats and the Left fawn over every issue related to Illegals that they say little or nothing about the corruption in the DOJ and FBI. Their focus being on what happens to illegals but not what happens to American Citizens as a result of that corruption. Of all the Agencies in the Federal Government there can be no justice in this Country if those agencies are corrupt. Where are the Democrats and Left demanding information and indictments against those that have been and are breaking the law? The answer is simple. If the truth be known and really revealed it would clearly show the corruption and law breaking of the Obama/Hillary gang and would utterly destroy the Democrats and the Left.

Dolores
Dolores
5 years ago
Reply to  dprato

They don’t want to say anything about the corruption because they are part of it.

dprato
dprato
5 years ago

OK folks lets get the facts straight. It is Federal law that when someone is arrested for illegally entering the Country and they have children with them they have to be separated because the children cannot be incarcerated with the parents. That is a Federal Court ruling. So once again don’t listen to the Leftist lies and propaganda Also, Obama followed the same rules and of course the Left never said a word in protest. Hypocrites? Of course!!! Do we ever blame the parents for putting these kids in this situation?

Maxx
Maxx
5 years ago
Reply to  dprato

The democommies have always used the old “do as we say, not as we do” method of lying to the public. Obama separated the parents and children of illegal crossers and the left said nothing, but because it is Trump and the same law still applies, it’s a big problem. Trump should just shut down all immigration, legal and illegal for 6 months until we get the wall well under construction. That will stop all illegal crossings.

Frank2525
Frank2525
5 years ago
Reply to  dprato

Media was invited to tour a facility last Friday, with about 1500 young males (age 10 to 17). They appeared at the border, and turned themselves in to border patrols, but had no adults with them, had no papers, and they are being well treated. Better quarters, food, and other help, then what they have in country they came from. But Media is not telling you that. Democrats use the kids, and lie about their condition, and what is happening as wedges at end of fiscal years, to force presidents to sign CONTINUING RESOLUTIONS. Wedge issue, and President Trump wants this issue settled, by Congress. Stop using kids and military as wedge extortion, to keep from having honest budget or appropriactions bills. It takes both, to spend money from the treasury. And Democrats have been using this for last 30 or more years. Their lies are worn out, and thread bare.

Dan
Dan
5 years ago
Reply to  dprato

If only Americans had brains they would know this.

dprato
dprato
5 years ago

Interesting how our elected representatives fight harder for those who come here illegally than for the folks they are suppose to represent. For example, during the first State of the Union when President Trump announced a historic low in Black unemployment, not a single member of the Democratic Black Causcus stood to applaud. Probably because it took a White President one year to do what they and a Black President couldn’t do during their entire careers. Obama separated kids during his tenure because the law was the same then as now and the hypocritical Democrats said nothing.

Frank2525
Frank2525
5 years ago
Reply to  dprato

The Democrats were the ones who wrote and passed that law to establish separating family. Set up wedge issue, to use for leverage every year, at end of Fiscal years, to force President to sign omnibus bills, that became continuing Resolutions. Been going on over 30 years to presidents of both parties.

dprato
dprato
5 years ago

While this statement may not be directly related to this particular commentary it is important for all Trump supporters to consider.
If most reasonable thinking people would think about their observations of the Left, Liberals and Democrats over the last two years they would see a group of people among them that are totally unhinged, irrational, hypocritical, liars, cheats, and their credibility is zero. We have been subjected to violent behavior, attacks on the Constitution, Religion, and the laws of the land. When people protect individuals who come here illegally and commit heinous crimes against other non citizens and citizens you have to know there is something wrong with the way they think. How can any American Citizen be against employing American Citizens, enforcing the laws of the land, and giving priority to American Citizens rather than Illegal’s, who we spend 135 billion dollars a year to support, as well as the tax break that has enabled business to flourish?
Everyone needs to think seriously about the direction you want this Country to take prior to voting in the 2018 elections. In 2016 despite all the projections we elected a President who has not only kept many of his promises against a stream of constant harassment but has actually turned things around in this Country for the better.
It is essential that we give President Trump a significant majority in the House and the Senate with people who will support him not continually try to undermine him. If you are pleased with the direction of the Country and tired of the continual assaults on our traditional values by the Left, Liberals and Democrats then it is essential that We The People get out and cast our votes for folks who will advance the Trump agenda. We will have only ourselves to blame if we fail to do this by thinking others will carry the day for us. Vote Republican for a better Country and allow the President to do the job he wants to do for us, the American People.
If you agree with my position here feel free to pass this on..

SUSAN LEA
SUSAN LEA
5 years ago
Reply to  dprato

Well Said!!!!! Any thoughts on how to successfully expose the lies of the hysterical protesters?

Madeleine Donaldson
Madeleine Donaldson
5 years ago
Reply to  dprato

Amen!

Courtenay Smith
Courtenay Smith
5 years ago

This piece of blatant propaganda cannot go unanswered. I have seen video of male children incarcerated in cages while I wonder, as likely do their parents, where the female children are. Any government action that separates refugees from each other is separation and by the act alone is patently malicious. Dhese people are not being detained by a late bus they are being held as prisoners. Saying that a brick is a chocolate cake doesn’t make it anything but a brick no matter who the fool who makes the claim.

Dennis Stewart
Dennis Stewart
5 years ago

This is all part of the premeditated and orchestrated plan to wreck and ruin the USA from the inside out via the divide and conquer strategy by using Lenin’s most essential dictum: “The Lie is Sacred” thus causing dissension and ceaseless internecine conflicts stimulated by choreographed confusion until convolution devours clarity and certitude.

zee
zee
5 years ago
Reply to  Dennis Stewart

YES Indeed, Dennis. &&& Mr. Pres Should have Never ‘signed’ his
‘whatever’… &&& ivank needs to quit looking at photos, weighing in,
& influencing.

Dr. Harold and Lydia Voogd Westra
Dr. Harold and Lydia Voogd Westra
5 years ago

It is interesting that this is occurring now when the Republican Party seemed to get an advantage. Is it possible that the other party recognized that they were getting behind on the PR war over the other party, We should be investigating if perhaps someone,Soros or Clinton or others have been spreading some money in Mexico or South America to get parents to bring their kids to the US border to disrupt our system. This may be something that may be interesting to investigate.

marilynn c
marilynn c
5 years ago

“In March of 1993, The United States Supreme Court issued a ruling in Reno v Flores. (Yes, “That” Reno. Janet Reno, Bill Clinton’s first Attorney General who ordered that young Elian Gonzalez be torn from his family’s arms while hiding in a Miami closet. You might remember the iconic photograph.)

The Court in Flores decided that minors could not be incarcerated with the adults accompanying them across the United States border illegally. The decision was the result of a long dispute in how to best care for these children while the adults were detained for criminal proceedings.

You see, when aliens cross the border illegally, they are incarcerated until their criminal case is decided. The understandable argument at the time was “why should children be incarcerated while their parents are in jail?” It seemed a fundamental violation of international human rights. Makes sense, right?

As a result, The Flores case drew a line in the sand. Children could not be incarcerated with their parents or accompanying adult while being held for illegal immigration violations. And a subsequent 1997 agreement stipulated that children must be placed in a safer environment where they could enjoy certain privileges, including education, a clean, safe environment and other normal life cycle amenities that incarcerated individuals do not enjoy.

It was considered a “victory” for human rights. By separating adult and child, we protected the children, reducing any harm done to them for their parent’s or accompanying adult’s decisions.

A lot has happened since then. However; bottom line, these juvenile, shelters have been operating in accordance with the law, and overseen by the Department of Health and Human Services to protect those children from the hazards of parental incarceration since 1997.

So, since Donald Trump was running his real estate empire, selling wine and casinos in 1993, we are left to determine just how he managed to orchestrate this cruel “separation of immigrant parent and child” 25 years BEFORE he was President of the United States. The obvious answer is, he didn’t. He had nothing to do with establishing this United States immigration policy. Today, he simply enforces it.

This one story illustrates how important it is for us to do our research regarding today’s headlines. The Corporate Media either refuses to do the research, is incapable of doing the research or has done the research and decided to lie to you about its findings. Either way, this would make the Corporate Media lazy, incompetent or just plain deceptive. Liars, if you will.”
“In March of 1993, The United States Supreme Court issued a ruling in Reno v Flores. (Yes, “That” Reno. Janet Reno, Bill Clinton’s first Attorney General who ordered that young Elian Gonzalez be torn from his family’s arms while hiding in a Miami closet. You might remember the iconic photograph.)

The Court in Flores decided that minors could not be incarcerated with the adults accompanying them across the United States border illegally. The decision was the result of a long dispute in how to best care for these children while the adults were detained for criminal proceedings.

You see, when aliens cross the border illegally, they are incarcerated until their criminal case is decided. The understandable argument at the time was “why should children be incarcerated while their parents are in jail?” It seemed a fundamental violation of international human rights. Makes sense, right?

As a result, The Flores case drew a line in the sand. Children could not be incarcerated with their parents or accompanying adult while being held for illegal immigration violations. And a subsequent 1997 agreement stipulated that children must be placed in a safer environment where they could enjoy certain privileges, including education, a clean, safe environment and other normal life cycle amenities that incarcerated individuals do not enjoy.

It was considered a “victory” for human rights. By separating adult and child, we protected the children, reducing any harm done to them for their parent’s or accompanying adult’s decisions.

A lot has happened since then. However; bottom line, these juvenile, shelters have been operating in accordance with the law, and overseen by the Department of Health and Human Services to protect those children from the hazards of parental incarceration since 1997.

So, since Donald Trump was running his real estate empire, selling wine and casinos in 1993, we are left to determine just how he managed to orchestrate this cruel “separation of immigrant parent and child” 25 years BEFORE he was President of the United States. The obvious answer is, he didn’t. He had nothing to do with establishing this United States immigration policy. Today, he simply enforces it.

Unicorn76
Unicorn76
5 years ago

The proverbial carrot must be eliminated. Birthright citizenship for any offspring of a pregnant unlawfully present alien must stop. Most other major industrialized nations have brought their citizenship requirements into the current 21st century. The US still has not gotten out of the nineteenth century. This not only includes fence hoppers and others, but those that come pregnant on “birth visas”. Unlawful migration is like a cancer that eventually permeates and destroys the entire body. Unlawful migration is in in one direction from poor countries to rich countries. Just like heat flow in thermodynamics, driving force is degree of economic difference. Tne way to stop the flow is to provide a boundary.

Joe
Joe
5 years ago

The whole thing is just another deliberately created democrat, hate Trump witch hunt. Anyone w2ith the brains of a newt should be able to see that.

linda
linda
5 years ago

It is very expensive to care for these illegal persons. That’s my tax money and your tax money as well. Better use that money to repair our bridges and roads. Why are these illegal kids allowed to cross the border to begin with? Apply for immigration in the established way, and wait to be cleared, just like most of the immigrants who are living and working in this country. Also, if you want our generous help, learn to SPEAK ENGLISH!!

RK
RK
5 years ago

hmmm reality check child trafficking, coyotes etc… the cartel …. hmmm they DID NOT just let these people walk through their country for nothing, duhhh…

And more reality – how do U know if these are the parents of these kids….???? They come with NO paperwork, nor does these so-call people claiming to be their parents…. educate u’rself…. We are a country of laws for all – We cannot have a country if we only live by and are played by emotion, which plays right into the cartel and Mexico agenda…

— So get real people, get real!

Stop letting the media who has ignored this for decades but now hate Trump so much that they are putting this in u’r face like its something new and using pics from the Obama era to manipulate u … so they, the media, which is democrat controlled, can use U and control and have that power over U….

Stop being play’d and trust that this will back fire and Trump will use this to get our Gov to finally correct and change these loopholes, laws, for the safety of them and our country!

zee
zee
5 years ago
Reply to  RK

POTUS Just ‘signed’ something or ‘other’
ON EMOTION. Not Good.
>inch by inch, we have NO Border Protection
& Soon Demographics for US Citizens Will
NOT be Favourable.
>POTUS = ‘Bleeding Heart Syndrome’ Or
‘ Stockholm Syndrome ‘ at the Expense of
USA. Future Not Good for a Sovereign Nation,
But Just Great for NWO/Socialism etc.

Dr. Wendell Fountain
Dr. Wendell Fountain
5 years ago

The democrats are incapable of keeping up with President Trump. Just to day he signed an Executive Order which keeps parents and children together at the border! Yes!

zee
zee
5 years ago

Seems like
1) Bleeding Heart Syndrome
2) Stockholm Syndrome
3) Germany/Sweden/London Playbook.
> I PREFER ‘TUFF LOVE” = HALT ALL
‘immis’ 5yrs, OR UNTIL Congress
Re-Writes Laws.
> Over 300 million in USA Should
Take Priority on ALL Fronts. USA
HAS Plenty Poor/Homeless.

zee
zee
5 years ago

ps. I Have NO Respect for Any Parent
‘cutting their child’ loose to a Handler/
trafficker/ coyote, & supplying girls w/
birth control, KNOWING re RAPE/ABUSE.
MEX Is Complicit in PASSAGEWAY .

zee
zee
5 years ago

&&& BTW: JUST WHO IS SUPPLYING the Parents
giving girls ‘birth control packets’ & ‘cutting
them loose’ to a trafficker/coyote’.
>OH GOD, MR. President, WAKE UP !!! Please___
> You ARE Upsetting ‘the Silent Majority’. ARE YOU
Aware of ‘that’ ??? whew.
> & Don’t let ivank see photos of ‘Rape Trees’ along
the MEX PASSAGEWAY.

Bill Cash
Bill Cash
5 years ago

I would take all bets that about half of those children DO NOT BELONG to the illegals crossing the border. As a three time combat vet I have seen how children are USED UP FRONT to deter a battle. North Korea used them, North Viet Nam and the Viet Cong used them, the Taliban, and Hamas are using them, sometimes placing them in the front line of fire and using them to walk across mines fields. These children at the border have been kidnapped, sold by the biological parents, and given to those who are making the trip. There should be proof (birth certificates etc) to show who these children are. But there is no paperwork on any of these people and the democrats say we should just accept them period. There is no doubt that a lot of these people are terrorist coming from Muslim nations and using this illegal trail to gain access to the U S. Today there are hundreds of them in Atlanta, Georgia who crossed the border through California. Once across they they get as far away from the border as they can. These people are depicted as “destitute”. So who is paying the bill for these thousands of miles trips??? I have a pretty good idea.

ION
ION
5 years ago

The hatred of Mexico for the US and Libya for Europe ( remember Cameron ,Obama and Sarkoszy’s contribution !) materializes today by supporting and encouraging millions of people from South America and Africa to invade the US and Europe.With immigrants’s “congress” in march (Mexico City), Mexico launched an aggressive offensive against the US bringing at the south border a new type of mercenary from Central America to maximize Perez’s chances of winning the November election, the offensive that will increase in the following months !!! WARNING ! NAFTA has become a serious threat to the US existence !

Henrye
Henrye
5 years ago

That’s probably somewhat OK to let the children stay incarcerated with their parents until their trial.
But then – #1. What do we do with them, the same as whatever happens to US kids when their parents are sent to prison?
Which is what?
The easiest way to solve a high percentage of the problem is to just pass the law –
US Benefits for US Citizens – PERIOD!

zee
zee
5 years ago
Reply to  Henrye

>Sure, LET Child’s stay w/P’s. What re ‘coyote’ KrAAP/ ADD NO PAPERWORK/
Illness etc. Sell that Big pharma Vacc’s, Take blood, PPH. = Terrible,Awful. i could go On
& On, & will ‘spare’ MoreUGLY. BTW: i read -some parents suing ‘bomba’ for ‘Death’ in
Hldg. Cntre. due to Lack of Proper Meds’ – whatever.
BOTTOM LINE = HALT ALL ! UNTIL
Congress RE -Writes PROPER LAW. ( Again, Prev. Administations
DID So AFTER WWII) TOO MANY LEFT ‘communistic’ Judges on
Bench.) TEMP. HALT = NO SEAPARATION = NO Detainment HLDG
Cntrs. ie ‘Pretty Walmart JadeHelm 15’ &&& NOT SO ‘PRETTY’ BS Cntrs.
WAAY TOO Much POLITICAL CONVOLUTION. w/ MEGA$$
INVOLVED. (ahem -cough,cough)
> LINE up Busses Across ALL ILLEGAL checkpoints. One STEP FORWARD
INTO a frickin’ Bus. Transpoerted Back ‘the Line’. MEX IS V. COMPLICIT
in PASSAGEWAY. I ♥MEX Culture,<< Once Demographics are ‘tipped’ thru this ‘stuff’ USA IS ‘Screwed’. &&&
” MISSION ACCOMPLISHED’ by U Know WHO ( i hope).

zee
zee
5 years ago
Reply to  zee

post altered: I Said re MEX : that the ‘leaders’? ARE ??? Complicit OR ‘HANDSTRAPPED’
By Cartels , Either Directly INVOLVED (w/$$Gain) OR COMPLICIT by >FEARRESULT IS NEGATIVE for USA / $$ for MEX.
> New MEX Election tells All in regards to POTUS FIRM<< Truly Pray/Hope MEX ppl ARE NOT ‘SCREWED’ ___thru ‘brainwashed’ /
& tampered VOTES.
> &&& I DO ♥ MEX CULTURE &&& FOOD !!! .

zee
zee
5 years ago
Reply to  zee

ps. post fragmented AGAIN. I SAID : MEX INVOLVED per ($$) OR FEAR.
> New MEX Elections tell ALL in Regards to POTUS FIRM NEGOTIATIONS.
remaining is Correct. Thank you.

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